Water For Fuel

[BAnuradha]

http://www.divaina.com/2008/06/27/news26.html

Anybody knows how it is working?How much is the cost, Is there any drobacks??

Edited June 27, 2008 by BAnuradha

[sanjeev]

is this true ? hydrogen fuell cell?

[GMI]

is this true ? hydrogen fuell cell?

Not sure whether he has built a HHO generator. There are lot of web resources on HHO cells - http://aquygen.blogspot.com/

I’ve made one and it generates HHO. But I did not fix and try in a car as it draws lot of current – I doubt it’ll add a significant fuel economy…

If anyone wants to fix this in a car and try I could give it free to try.

GMI

[Nuwan B4]

Wow interesting story.....

[viking]

Twenty-year lifespan for petrol cars (June 2008)

It's all about fuel cells and hydrogen, says Hyundai

Hyundai is a company tripping all over itself to bring new diesel models to market. In Australia at least, there's an opportunity to establish itself in a market niche so far mostly occupied by some European importers. If Hyundai can be the first of the Asia/Pacific importers to gain a foothold, it will stand the company in good stead for the next several years.

Hyundai accepts that by 2030, 50 per cent of automotive production will be fuel-cell powered. As of 2005, 76.8 per cent (or 51 million) of the 66 million cars sold around the world that year were driven by petrol engines. Diesel-powered cars accounted for 22.7 per cent (15 million units) that year and hybrids numbered just 300,000 (0.5 per cent).

As for fuel cell vehicles, Hyundai tells us that just 200 demonstration vehicles were built during 2005.

But that will all change within 20 years. By 2030, it's the petrol-engined cars that will be numbered in three figures, or less.

Diesel vehicle sales will steadily grow between now and the middle of the next decade, at which point, the diesel will be overtaken by hybrids and sales of the compression-ignition vehicles will begin to decline, according to Hyundai.

Sales of hybrid-electric cars are expected to grow exponentially between 2010 and 2020 and will be the most popular form of motive power for private cars by around the middle of the decade -- the point at which US ZEV (Zero-Emissions Vehicles) legislation takes effect.

From that point, fuel cell vehicle numbers will rapidly accelerate and both hybrids and diesels will begin to lose ground.

Hyundai's analysis of future buying trends is heavily predicated on public and private sector entities establishing viable hydrogen resupply infrastructure within a reasonable timeframe.

With a diesel-based stop-gap solution already a long way down the track, Hyundai's next developmental stage rests with hybrids. Remember the figure of 300,000 hybrids sold globally in 2005? 76 per cent of those were Toyotas and the lion's share of those were the Prius.

By 2012, Hyundai predicts that the global hybrid market will total 2.2 million, of which nearly 1.7 million will be purchased by American consumers, 0.5 million will be sold in Japan and the balance will be sold throughout Europe and other parts of the world.

2012 is a tipping point for hybrids, in the view of Hyundai. At that time, Toyota is expected to offer at least one hybrid variant in every major product range.

Ford will develop its own hybrid system and commence manufacture from this year. A consortium formed by GM, Daimler AG, Chrysler Group and BMW will concentrate on the development of plug-in hybrids.

Hyundai anticipates going from small-scale hybrid production (Accent and Getz totalling 3390 units between 2007 and 2009) to large scale hybrid production in 2010 -- and the company will diversify hybrid production across the broader product range.

Undoubtedly, the Korean company expects to be near the front of the fuel cell game when US ZEV legislation gets into stride. Hyundai sees running costs for fuel cell vehicles virtually halving as the cost of the technology comes down. As a bonus, the fuel cell vehicles produce virtually no CO2.

R&D work undertaken by Hyundai has already led to a fuel cell vehicle that will start in -15 degree Celsius temperatures and can withstand a 30mph (48.3km/h) rear-end impact without loss of structural integrity for the hydrogen tank.

In the Michelin Bibendum Challenge last year, Hyundai's Tucson-based FCEV entrant beat all other competitors for the lowest noise and fuel consumption, and the company has been working with the US Department of Energy hydrogen and fuel cell commercialisation project.

So whilst the company's fuel cell development program is just exactly that at the moment -- a development program -- Hyundai is planning for fuel cell production to commence from 2012.

And -- assuming all goes to plan -- what this means for the private consumer: much change over the next 20 years (from petrol to diesel to hybrid to fuel cell), but no capitulation to the 'private cars are a luxury we can no longer afford' lobby.

[viking]

The above was a news item on MSN. The truth may not turn out to be very far from this the way things are moving globally. The shift from petrol to diesel is already very clear in Europe though there is not much of a saving as diesel is more expensive than petrol. (UK being the most expensive at close to US$ 2.60 a litre of diesel) But for some reason people opt for the more expensive diesel engines which are not only expensive to buy and also expensive to run. But the shift is eminent as there are more diesel driven vehicles on the road than petrol driven ones. Next step up will be hybrids which are already in mainstream production and on the road. And within the next 10 years, we will see the hydrogen or fuel cell driven vehicles joining mainstream production like we see hybrids today. Finally we all will end up driving fuel cell/hydrogen driven vehicles according to Hyundai. (Which will be very likely)

[Tilak]

Not sure whether he has built a HHO generator. There are lot of web resources on HHO cells - http://aquygen.blogspot.com/

I’ve made one and it generates HHO. But I did not fix and try in a car as it draws lot of current – I doubt it’ll add a significant fuel economy…

If anyone wants to fix this in a car and try I could give it free to try.

GMI

This what I also have gathered from the articles in the internet. THe electrical power required for making HHO is very high and cannot be met with the existing alternator in the car. But I hear that there are some recent deveolpment and this is becoming reality.

[Kasuncp]

I Found another Video on this hope it will help.

Kasun