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Was browsing through some pics on the Toyota site and just noticed that although the Harrier logo is not there on the exterior...it is there in the interior...

So the exterior images might be just from a production ready prototype for marketing and actual JDM variant will have the Harrier logo or Toyota might just do something wierd and stick to what it is right now

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and a lot gets explained....Toyota US has confirmed the revival of the Toyota Venza for the 20/21 model year. AND it is the Harrier ! Explains why the images so far had the Toyota logo. This also means that the Harrier might get the traditional Harrier logo (which explains why the interior pics had the Harrier logo). Nothing is confirmed though...but the Harrier is the new Venza in the US

https://www.thedrive.com/news/33523/the-toyota-venza-is-back-for-2021-with-sharper-looks-and-more-luxury?fbclid=IwAR0pF5hdtlrBWyBbykA1ytM8IrpF5gCZUE5DyODmybC82D1AHCK3E-tsdS4

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42 minutes ago, iRage said:

and a lot gets explained....Toyota US has confirmed the revival of the Toyota Venza for the 20/21 model year. AND it is the Harrier ! Explains why the images so far had the Toyota logo. This also means that the Harrier might get the traditional Harrier logo (which explains why the interior pics had the Harrier logo). Nothing is confirmed though...but the Harrier is the new Venza in the US

https://www.thedrive.com/news/33523/the-toyota-venza-is-back-for-2021-with-sharper-looks-and-more-luxury?fbclid=IwAR0pF5hdtlrBWyBbykA1ytM8IrpF5gCZUE5DyODmybC82D1AHCK3E-tsdS4

 

I was little surprise to see Harrier has smaller tires than the Venza. Older Venza come with 245/55/R19 or 245/50/R20.

 

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2 hours ago, kmeeg said:

I was little surprise to see Harrier has smaller tires than the Venza. Older Venza come with 245/55/R19 or 245/50/R20.

Any advantage in having larger rims? Aren't 19's (or even 18's) with a bigger sidewall better overall (comfort wise as well as cost) on an SUV/CUV? 

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34 minutes ago, Kavvz said:

Any advantage in having larger rims? Aren't 19's (or even 18's) with a bigger sidewall better overall (comfort wise as well as cost) on an SUV/CUV? 

....but then you don't get to look like a "baller" from the 'hood @Kavvz😅

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Kavvz said:

Any advantage in having larger rims? Aren't 19's (or even 18's) with a bigger sidewall better overall (comfort wise as well as cost) on an SUV/CUV? 

I don't know if its the low profile tires make it more nimble in corners or design itself, its very easy to drive on curvy mountain roads. But in general I don't like larger wheels with low profile tires. I like smaller wheels and more rubber. I replaced 245/55/R19 stock with 255/55/R19 but still not much rubber.

 

 

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1 hour ago, kmeeg said:

I don't know if its the low profile tires make it more nimble in corners or design itself, its very easy to drive on curvy mountain roads. But in general I don't like larger wheels with low profile tires. I like smaller wheels and more rubber. I replaced 245/55/R19 stock with 255/55/R19 but still not much rubber.

 

That's a very aggressive looking tread block pattern with pretty big tread voids: What is that? Some kind of winter / very aggressive all weather tyre? They must have been noisey on the highway though, I bet? 

(I think more rubber on the sidewalls is the way to go too for comfort and everyday use. Even handling and acceleration wise I seem to recall reading somewhere that 17 inch wheels with low-profile tires out performed other combos...Current trends seem to dictate otherwise though, and I'm quite annoyed to see even standard passenger car wheels and SUV/CUV wheels creeping towards the 19's and 20's- Cool style-wise but quite the bummer comfort and fuel economy wise! ) Having said that @Devinda_Z I did come across some beautiful 19 inch -offset /  'bokku' wheels + low profile tires on a 335i coupe recently that left me weak at the knees! Very baller-ish!:D )  

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2 minutes ago, Kavvz said:

That's a very aggressive looking tread block pattern with pretty big tread voids: What is that? Some kind of winter / very aggressive all weather tyre? They must have been noisey on the highway though, I bet? 

 

They are Continental Terrain Contact All Terrain 255/55/R19 XL load. Since its All Terrain a fraction noisier than stock  tires and been Load rating XL  with stiffer side walls over SL stock tires I could feel the bumps little more.

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Just now, kmeeg said:

They are Continental Terrain Contact All Terrain 255/55/R19 XL load. Since its All Terrain a fraction noisier than stock  tires and been Load rating XL  with stiffer side walls over SL stock tires I could feel the bumps little more.

Ah...How come the change?  (As they are stiffer / less comfortable? Does the Venza see a bit of rough road use or get loaded up quite a bit?) 

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1 hour ago, Kavvz said:

Ah...How come the change?  (As they are stiffer / less comfortable? Does the Venza see a bit of rough road use or get loaded up quite a bit?) 

Just for the looks machan. Never seen a rough road.

We better not hijack this 2021 Toyota Harrier thread to talk about previous generation Venza. LoL 😂

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2 hours ago, kmeeg said:

Just for the looks machan. Never seen a rough road.

We better not hijack this 2021 Toyota Harrier thread to talk about previous generation Venza. LoL 😂

Well...the Venza was a bit of a lazy pooch that was rather underwhelming in the looks department wasn't it ? It was a mid range family hauler and I agree with the article...no one really missed it when it was pulled off the product listing. But now the Venza has gone upscale thanks to the Harrier. Although, I have to admit..the Venza variant looks a bit cheap compared to the Harrier...that front looks more plasticy.  I suppose it could be the color combination and the finishing effect on the grill and stuff

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19 hours ago, iRage said:

Well...the Venza was a bit of a lazy pooch that was rather underwhelming in the looks department wasn't it ? It was a mid range family hauler and I agree with the article...no one really missed it when it was pulled off the product listing. But now the Venza has gone upscale thanks to the Harrier. Although, I have to admit..the Venza variant looks a bit cheap compared to the Harrier...that front looks more plasticy.  I suppose it could be the color combination and the finishing effect on the grill and stuff

@kmeegnow look who's digressing 😅😂

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