Why Vezel Is Bad?

[sasika]

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This screen doesn't show you the exact fuel consumption figure, it just shows what you might achieve if you keep driving the way you are driving currently (so according to this pic if he had driven the whole journey like he had been driving when he had taken this pic, he might actually had achieved the shown figure). I guess in this pic either he is driving down a slope or using the hybrid battery power.</p></blockquote>

But the trip is 22km. The fuel economy figure resets when u reset the trip. I think the screen shows average economy done since last reset. Please shed some light whoever did this

[sasika]

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Magnum's right, its just for a C class with an AMG exterior package, the AMG version has roughly 400 hp so this can't be it...</p></blockquote>

I actually have the catalog for the C200. There are four trim levels mentioned there. Standard, Elegance, Avant grade and AMG l

[iRage]

Well the engine is different in the AMG model. not only the looks.. may not be the real one.. no idea

1.6 vs 2.0

150 odd bhp vs 184bhp

Dude...you are comparing the C180 which comes with a 1.6 M274 engine with that of a C200 which comes with a 2.0 M274 engine. As far as I know they are both turbo charged. If you look at the specs of the 'non-AMG" C200 you will see that the engine specs are pretty much the same.

The AMG you are talking about is just like what Magnum said...a "package". In Japan both the C180 and C200 come in what they call 'AMG Line" where what you get is pretty much the highest grade of either the C180 or C200 wih some bells and whistles like a body kit, larger wheels, etc...

EDIT: Since you have a tendency to miss the point....all C200s come with the same engine. Even the AMG "model" you are talking about. All C180s come with the same engine even its AMG "Line" version. the ~150hp vs. 184hp you compared were of two different engines that come in two different sub classes within the C-Class.

Edited March 1, 2015 by iRage

[sasika]

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Dude...you are comparing the C180 which comes with a 1.6 M274 engine with that of a C200 which comes with a 2.0 M274 engine. As far as I know they are both turbo charged. If you look at the specs of the 'non-AMG" C200 you will see that the engine specs are pretty much the same.<br />

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The AMG you are talking about is just like what Magnum said...a "package". In Japan both the C180 and C200 come in what they call 'AMG Line" where what you get is pretty much the highest grade of either the C180 or C200 wih some bells and whistles like a body kit, larger wheels, etc...</p></blockquote>

I was referring to the spec sheets. It's AMG line, not AMG tuned engines

[iRage]

I was referring to the spec sheets. It's AMG line, not AMG tuned engines

Even then you missed the point and "mis"-compared. The engine is NOT different in the AMG "Line" from the other grades/trims in the C200 or the C180! The 156hp is for the C180.with the 1.6 M274 and the 184hp is for the C200 with the 2.0 M274 irrespective of grade/trim. Instead you incorrectly assumed and went on tooting that the non AMG Line C200 had a different engine ! <yeah yeah..now you are going to say you were comparing the C180 against the AMG which is a C200 offered by the agents..in which case you were not actually replying to Magnum's statement about the AMG being just a dress up and not the actual AMG; but going off tangent...you know..in a koheda yanne malle pol kinda way)

But I will give you an A+ for effort in trying to salvage what you said are you sure you are not related to a certain guy who went by the name of "osaka_juice"

[Kavvz]

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Magnum's right, its just for a C class with an AMG exterior package, the AMG version has roughly 400 hp so this can't be it...</p></blockquote>

I think That's C63 AMG you are talking about. Equivalent of the BMW M3

What other C class AMG versions are there?

[sasika]

Even then you missed the point and "mis"-compared. The engine is NOT different in the AMG "Line" from the other grades/trims in the C200 or the C180! The 156hp is for the C180.with the 1.6 M274 and the 184hp is for the C200 with the 2.0 M274 irrespective of grade/trim. Instead you incorrectly assumed and went on tooting that the non AMG Line C200 had a different engine ! <yeah yeah..now you are going to say you were comparing the C180 against the AMG which is a C200 offered by the agents..in which case you were not actually replying to Magnum's statement about the AMG being just a dress up and not the actual AMG; but going off tangent...you know..in a koheda yanne malle pol kinda way)

But I will give you an A+ for effort in trying to salvage what you said are you sure you are not related to a certain guy who went by the name of "osaka_juice"

Actually sir, I wasn't salvaging anything... I was talking about the agents as u pointed out simple as that. Maybe I misunderstood Magnum as he was talking about the C63 AMG due to the tone of his reply.He mentioned 400bhp in that. That's why I was specifying the C63 AMG and the power of the C200 and the C180. Maybe you should look at people more politely. Just a thought. No I'm not a relative of the person u mentioned.

Thank you Very much

EDIT: Well the engine is different in the AMG model. not only the looks.. may not be the real one.. no idea

1.6 vs 2.0

150 odd bhp vs 184bhpWell the engine is different in the AMG model. not only the looks.. may not be the real one.. no idea

1.6 vs 2.0

150 odd bhp vs 184bhp"

Maybe I should've said "AMG line provided by agents" and not AMG model.

Edited March 1, 2015 by sasika

[iRage]

What other C class AMG versions are there?

Well what our wonderful Sasika misinformed and mislead everyone with incorrect comparisons and careless oversight is this...there is an actual AMG for the C class . However, kind of like the path Magnum went on to...MB offers what is called an "AMG Line" for most of their cars. These are not performance tuned versions but simple add on packages to the usual cars.

@Sasika...sorry I don't have much respect for idiocy...especially the kind of idiocy that is possessed by ignorant people who lead other people astray even when the other person is in the right and then try to cover up their idiocy by doing more idiotic stuff....remember..monkey ? banana ? and here is a suggestion to you my dear sir..check your facts, try to understand it and organize it in a coherent manner before you start yapping...

Edited March 1, 2015 by iRage

[sasika]

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="iRage" data-cid="273359" data-time="1425226857">Well what our wonderful Sasika misinformed and mislead everyone with incorrect comparisons and careless oversight is this...the actual AMG for the C class is the C63 AMG. However, kind of like the path Magnum went on to...MB offers what is called an "AMG Line" for most of their cars. These are not performance tuned versions but simple add on packages to the usual cars. 
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<p>@Sasika...sorry I don't have much respect for idiocy...especially the kind of idiocy that is possessed by ignorant people who lead other people astray even when the other person is in the right and then try to cover up their idiocy by doing more idiotic stuff....remember..monkey ? banana ? and here is a suggestion to you my dear sir..check your facts, try to understand it and organize it in a coherent manner before you start yapping...</p>
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<p>Yes I agree with u that my posts are less arranged.. posting here isn't my job..For idiocy, maybe cz u don't know me personally, I'm ok and wasn't seeking for respect. But Being mistaken about a field he/she doesn't know is not defined in that way. I was posting what I got from agents when I inquired them before placing my order. So maybe I didn't know the difference. I said I have no Idea.. You sir can talk to people better than this,so u may earn some respect,if u need any <img class="bbc_emoticon" src="http://forum.autolanka.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" title=":)" /> Thank you for all the correcting you did. Learnt a lot from you. And as I can see you are an expert in this field. I am not, but I love cars and learn at my leisure... Been reading this forum for years without being a member.. sold all my cars through this, and bought some. And I love hanging around here and reading threads.. I'll have my posts arranged next time and see what the responses are.. Thanks</p>
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Edited March 1, 2015 by sasika

[sasika]

What other C class AMG versions are there?

yes there is C450 AMG model.. According to MB, it's from AMG, but no idea what experts might say...

[iRage]

posting here isn't my job..For idiocy, maybe cz u don't know me personally, I'm ok and wasn't seeking for respect. But Being mistaken about a field he/she doesn't know is not defined in that way. I was posting what I got from agents when I inquired them before placing my order. So maybe I didn't know the difference. I said I have no Idea.. You sir can talk to people better than this,so u may earn some respect,if u need any. Thank you for all the correcting you did. Learnt a lot from you. And as I can see you are an expert in this field. I am not, but I love cars and learn at my leisure... Been reading this forum for years without being a member.. sold all my cars through this, and bought some. So I love hanging around here and reading threads.. I'll have my posts arranged next time and see what the responses are.. Thanks

1. It is no one's 'JOB' to post on this forum....I believe we are all a bunch of car fanatics sharing what we know and learn. Thankfully quite a few of the members are sensible and responsible in what they post. So I am glad you were able to learn...

2. I did talk nice to you at the beginning when you started this whole thread to feel good about your Weasel....but then you displayed a side of yourself that was thick headed and overly opinionated about yourself and your beliefs. I sincerely hope in person you are a much more open minded and down to earth person. I have the respect of people who matter to me and I am quite happy with it thank you If I need more respect I guess I will follow the herd and buy me self a Weasel since I don't have much else going for me.

3. Again...you dug yourself deeper....so you ordered a MB without actually reading through the specs properly ? Even what you copied and pasted says C180 Av. and C200 AMG right on top (I might be wrong but I thought at some point you also pointed a reference to the sales brochure for some specs ? or was it just the grade/trim levels ?). Shame on the dealership for just saying C200 AMG.. ..nice collection of cars though...BMW X1 + Vezel + a MB...

[iRage]

yes there is C450 AMG model.. According to MB, it's from AMG, but no idea what experts might say...

Yes and the other C'd AMG would be the C63 like you previously mentioned.

[sasika]

1. It is no one's 'JOB' to post on this forum....I believe we are all a bunch of car fanatics sharing what we know and learn. Thankfully quite a few of the members are sensible and responsible in what they post. So I am glad you were able to learn...

2. I did talk nice to you at the beginning when you started this whole thread to feel good about your Weasel....but then you displayed a side of yourself that was thick headed and overly opinionated about yourself and your beliefs. I sincerely hope in person you are a much more open minded and down to earth person. I have the respect of people who matter to me and I am quite happy with it thank you If I need more respect I guess I will follow the herd and buy me self a Weasel since I don't have much else going for me.

3. Again...you dug yourself deeper....so you ordered a MB without actually reading through the specs properly ? Even what you copied and pasted says C180 Av. and C200 AMG right on top (I might be wrong but I thought at some point you also pointed a reference to the sales brochure for some specs ? or was it just the grade/trim levels ?). Shame on the dealership for just saying C200 AMG.. ..nice collection of cars though...BMW X1 + Vezel + a MB...

Thanks. Didn't mean to be harsh on u . Sorry about that.. Yeah I copied and pasted, went through the spec.. have not placed the order yet. Did I say I have? Sorry If I did.. I have not. Bit mix minded whether to switch or stick with the beemer for one more year. I would ask opinion on that here, but after the response I got for this, thought later would be better . I wasn't trying to be thick headed, just sharing my inexpert views. Too bad u got me wrong.. I came here to learn something and that's what I intend to do. So this thread has gone wild and don't want it to be personal. and I apologise for the wording of my previous post if those offended u.

Edited March 1, 2015 by sasika

[Dafunkdi]

whoa! This topic is taking a major turn around from Honda Vezel aka Honda Vesi to Mercedes Benz & AMG & so on.......
Don't know where it will end.

[sathyajithj99]

whoa! This topic is taking a major turn around from Honda Vezel aka Honda Vesi to Mercedes Benz & AMG & so on.......

Don't know where it will end.

Hey mate! Don't call her like that .She is a lady ..............

[Kavvz]

Lets not let this thread degrade into a name calling free for all. After all it'd be a shame if this thread about the hoda vesi honda vesi vezel gets locked or something...

Edited March 1, 2015 by Kavvz

[Kavvz]

yes there is C450 AMG model.. According to MB, it's from AMG, but no idea what experts might say...

Yes and the other C'd AMG would be the C63 like you previously mentioned.

Thanks for the input gents. Did some googling and apparently the C class C450AMG is the replacement for the current c63 where the previous 6 litre naturally aspirated monster of an engine is being replaced with a 4 litre twin turbo. The hp and torque outputs remain about the same apparently...

[sasika]

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Thanks for the input gents. Did some googling and apparently the C class C450AMG is the replacement for the current c63 where the previous 6 litre naturally aspirated monster of an engine is being replaced with a 4 litre twin turbo. The hp and torque outputs remain about the same apparently...</p></blockquote>

There are some reviews as well.. Some say it's more appropriate for pleasure of driving than the C63..

[liya]

What's that saying.....even a loris finds its offspring beautiful (unahapuluwata ugey patiyath lassanai)?

[Ruslan]

This is Pathetic, we are slowly becoming a Tamilnadu..

http://www.adaderana.lk/news/29988/debt-ridden-individual-self-immolates-inside-leasing-company

[The Don]

Ha ha ha, seems there was confusion over trim levels vs so called performance kits vs performance version

Mercedes, Audi, BMW all does the same thing. They offer so called performance kits, though in MB its sometimes confused with the performance version as they kind of call it the same thing. Because its AMG (Like C200 with AMG kit), M Sports (Like E92 M Sports), S Line vs AMG (again like C63 AMG), M (M1, M2, M3, M4, M5), S (S3, S4)

[VVTi]

This is Pathetic, we are slowly becoming a Tamilnadu..

http://www.adaderana.lk/news/29988/debt-ridden-individual-self-immolates-inside-leasing-company

Mass immolation days are not so far ahead...

[Crosswind]

Mass immolation days are not so far ahead...

New form of Darwin Award if you ask me...

Buy a Honda Vezel (or any unaffordable car) for an exhorbitant finance instalment... find it difficult to settle the instalment... run a taxi service with the car hoping to make some money... when that also doesn't work out... walk to the leasing company and set fire on self...

[iRage]

Buy a Honda Vezel (or any unaffordable car) for an exhorbitant finance instalment... find it difficult to settle the instalment... run a taxi service with the car hoping to make some money... when that also doesn't work out... walk to the leasing company and set fire on self...

i just hope this finance company is not going to press charges for destructing their property and seek compensation for the damages caused...

[sasika]

if not for those leasing companies that lend every boy and girl any amount of money they won't, we wouldn't see this big fleets of vezels, premios Allions and axios IMO