Prius 1.8 Performance

[Jor-el]

Hello fellows,

I'm kinda asking because Im curious - I own a 3rd gen 1.8ltr prius. If I compete with same priced gasoline vehicles like Mazda 3(1.6), Honda civic(1.6), Lancer EX (1.6), Toyota axio (1.5),(without mods) which one will win?

your ideas?

Edited June 30, 2014 by Jor-el

[Jor-el]

A fellow owner had discuss this on facebook:

ප්‍රියස් එකකත් ඇත්තේ අභ්‍යන්තර දහන එන්ජිමක්. එහි මෝටරයේ බලය එන්ජිමේ බලයෙන් 1/3 ක් විතර. එහෙත් ප්‍රියස් එකේ ත්වරණය ඉහත වාහනවලට වඩා වැඩියි කියා මට හිතෙනවා. Specification සසඳා බැලූ විට, මේ 1800 ප්‍රමාණයේ වැඩිම බලයක් එන වාහන කාණ්ඩයේ බලය වැඩිම, අභ්‍යන්තර දහන එන්ජිමක් පමණක් ඇති Honda Civic. එයින් නම් ප්‍රියස් රථය පසු කර යන්නට පුළුවන් කියා දන්නවා.බලය අඩුම වාහනය Peugeot 1800 CC...

... ප්‍රියස් එකෙත් ස්ටාටර් මෝටරයක් නැහැ. ඒ කියන්නේ ක්‍ෂනිකව ලොකු ධාරාවක් දෙන ලොකු බැටරියක, පරිපථයක අවශ්‍යතාවයක් නැහැ. එය කෙරෙන්නේ, සීට් එක පිටු පස ඇති (වාහනයට බලය සපයන) මහ බැටරියෙන්. ඒ වාගේම Regenerative breaking තියෙනවා. ඒ කියන්නේ හැම බ්‍රේක් පාරකටම බැටරිය ආරෝපණය වෙනවා. අනෙක වාහන ගෙන්වන ඒජන්සි වලින් අසා බැලුවොත්, හයිබ්‍රිඩ් සඳහා භාවිතා වන බ්රේක් පෑඩ් අඩුවෙන්ම ගෙවෙන බවත් ඔවුන් කියාවි. මගේ මතකය නිවැරදි නම්, ඔය කිසිම හයිබ්‍රිඩ් වාහනයක බෙල්ට් නැහැ. ඒ කියන්නේ බෙල්ට් එකක් කැඩිලා වන කරදරය ඒවායේ නැහැ. ඒ නිසා ඔය ප්‍රියස්, ඉන්සයිට්, වෝල්ටා, සිවික් හයිබ්‍රිඩ් වගේ සියළුම වාහන වියදම අතින්, අනෙක් සාමාන්‍ය අභ්‍යන්තර දහන එන්ජිම් තියෙන වාහන වලට වඩා හොඳයි...

...එහෙත් මේවා පාවිච්චි නොකර නිකම් තිබ්බොත් නම් වැඩේ දෙල් වෙනවා. බැටරිය නරක් වෙනවා...

[Bracket]

How did you post if you are validating?

[Jor-el]

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[Schiffer]

amma prius eka.. aniva defa. nikan gindarawage speed machan. -__-"

[Jor-el]

So that means I can outrun them while maintaining a better fuel economy than them right? I thought gasolines accelerates better. Speedwise prius should be the winner as more CC ( 1600 vs 1800) , two engines, (meaning more hp) and lightweight chassis.

I wonder why some ppl still think hybrid is a failure in SL..

[The Don]

Hello fellows,

I'm kinda asking because Im curious - I own a 3rd gen 1.8ltr prius. If I compete with same priced gasoline vehicles like Mazda 3(1.6), Honda civic(1.6), Lancer EX (1.6), Toyota axio (1.5),(without mods) which one will win?

your ideas?

Question is does it matter....? If you want to street race, you won't buy a Economy oriented Hybrid now will you?

I'll expect the prius to keep up, but nothing more.

[Jor-el]

^ The point is I can win while maintaining bettr eco. more power for less fuel. why only "keep up"?

Edited June 30, 2014 by Jor-el

[The Don]

So that means I can outrun them while maintaining a better fuel economy than them right? I thought gasolines accelerates better. Speedwise prius should be the winner as more CC ( 1600 vs 1800) , two engines, (meaning more hp) and lightweight chassis.

I wonder why some ppl still think hybrid is a failure in SL..

No, if you race really hard, you will get less economy than a standard Gasoline engined car. Read the Top Gear article on the subject where they proved how bad the fuel economy is on a Prius under hard acceloration. Then the benefits of the Hybrid system is lost as you have the engine working constantly at full power, and the electric motor engaged as well.

[The Don]

^ The point is I can win while maintaining bettr eco. more power for less fuel. why only "keep up"?

Look dude, what do you think your prius is, a space ship running on rocket fuel?

Its a damn econo wagon, treat it as such and you won't have any issues.

If you want something which you can overtake anything on the road, buy an Evo or a STI. sheesh!

[Jor-el]

This way I have a duel-purpose vehicle no? normal cruising I save more than them, and if I want to have some fun I can make them gas guzzlers eat my dust and I have lesser maintaining expenses (eg: brake pad)

[VVTi]

This way I have a duel-purpose vehicle no? normal cruising I save more than them, and if I want to have some fun I can make them gas guzzlers eat my dust and I have lesser maintaining expenses (eg: brake pad)

Edited June 30, 2014 by VVTi

[Jor-el]

VVTI thats not hilarious and bloody OT. seriously. keep up searching for gay movies on porno sites not on al. If you have any facts against prius tell it or stop bullying me.

[VVTi]

VVTI thats not hilarious and bloody OT. seriously. keep up searching for gay movies on porno sites not on al. If you have any facts against prius tell it or stop bullying me.

You have anything against gays? I was referring to your very clear sense of inadequacy... the kind you get when you realize that your schlong is smaller than the next guy's....

Why don't you just trot along on your Prius and see if you can keep up with a Piaggio Ape first.

[Jor-el]

So! you believe a prius cant keep up with a piaggio eh? What made you think so? road-hogging drivers? if so blame the drivers, not the car. If you can explain why a prius cant keep up with a piaggio or any cars I hve mentioned above, please do so. That will help all future car buyers and car owners of this forum.

[VVTi]

So! you believe a prius cant keep up with a piaggio eh? What made you think so? road-hogging drivers? if so blame the drivers, not the car. If you can explain why a prius cant keep up with a piaggio or any cars I hve mentioned above, please do so. That will help all future car buyers and car owners of this forum.

The monkey behind the wheel of a Hybrid, 1.8 or 1.4 it st ill the same....

[Jor-el]

come on VVTI, is that the best you can do? calling me "short-penised guy", "monkey", etc? dont you have anything valuble to add to this thread? I'm just eager to know the capabilities and potential of hybrids.. when compared to similar priced gasolines. pros as well as cons when it comes to performance. Not just fuel economy.

Edited June 30, 2014 by Jor-el

[ramishkad]

Isnt the 1.8 engine of the Prius an Atkinson cycle engine? This type of engine is built for efficiency not performance. It would be slower when compared with an Otto cycle engine of the same capacity, especially when it comes to acceleration from a dead stop.

Also, if you 'race' a Prius against a Civic 1.8 i-VTEC , it would leave you in dust and it would actually humiliate the Prius when Vtec kicks in.

Leave the 1.8 civic alone, I've outrun an overly enthusiastic Prius driver who started a childish act of challenging me on the highway with my Civic Hybrid (I dont believe in racing on the road to impress people i dont even know, but this guy seemed to have a serious case of penis envy so it had to be done).

Its not just the engine capacity that matters when winning a 'race'. Handling, cornering, aerodynamics - all that matters. And let's not kid ourselves here - hybrid vehicles DO consume a lot of fuel when you have it constantly under hard acceleration.

[iRage]

So that means I can outrun them while maintaining a better fuel economy than them right? I thought gasolines accelerates better. Speedwise prius should be the winner as more CC ( 1600 vs 1800) , two engines, (meaning more hp) and lightweight chassis.

I wonder why some ppl still think hybrid is a failure in SL..

Okay...just to humor you....it seems like you are under the belief that the Prius is lighter than the other cars you mentioned. the Prius' weight is stated as 1400+ kg vehicle weight and 1600+kg Gross weight. The Corolla Axio, Lancer EX, and Civic weights around 1100kg - 1200kg. So the Prius starts off with a weight disadvantage.

The Prius may have a higher output (99PS @ 5200 rpm and 145Nm @ 4000 rpm) than the Axio (74 PS @ 4800 rpm / 111Nm @ 3600rpm) but from what I can see it is under powered compared to the Civic (125 PS @6500 rpm / 151Nm @4300 rpm); maybe someone can find some figures for the Lancer EX ? The additional weight the Prius has to lug around negates any additional power gains it would have over the Axio and means diddly squat compared to the Civic (and my guess is over the Lancer as well)

I thinkyou should go through the Hybrid threads a few more times to see why some are skeptical about Hybrids

[Komisiripala]

juat sayin...

seriously, how inadequate do you feel, on a scale of 1 to 10, to drag race your precious prius?

[Jor-el]

Finally some sensible answers.

Did a quick google and the lancers output is

"Peak output is rated at 117 ps at 6,000 rpm with peak torque of 154 Nm at 4,000 rpm."

So how come a 1.6 engine is able to deliver more power than a 1.8 ? and is it power all that matters when drag racing? when it comes to safety and handling prius should be the winner ( more airbags+newer aerodynamic design)

what aboout mazda 3? its power output is " 105bhp maximum power output and torque of 145Nm at 4,000rpm " but 0-100 acceleration time is 12.2 sec, compared to 8 sec of prius. So prius should be the winner despite the power right?

people, I dont want to drag race everyday, this is just for "educational purposes". and for occasional random races on highway

and Komisiripala what is your fuel economy and how much did your car cost? and why did you post the back tail light of your car ?

Edited June 30, 2014 by Jor-el

[ramishkad]

and why did you post the back tail light of your car ?

Because it has a sticker that'll make you orgasm.

Edited July 1, 2014 by ramishkad

[Komisiripala]

6kmpl

1.4 million.

And oddly, I'm those figures make the both of us happy for completely different reasons.

Tell us more about how the Prius handles well. Please. You surely must know something we don't.

Edited July 1, 2014 by Komisiripala

[Jor-el]

Oh. Just saw it. Still waiting for the orgasm though.

[Jor-el]

Siripala nice ride for that price. Well If that figures are true I will have to run many more kms to match the price difference haha.