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  1. Thanks @Amarapala, for the real life usage statistics Update, I could not resist answering this as I've been really interested in this car from November 2016 when it was launched, and been doing a bit of research on for sometime, Unfortunately, I don't own one yet, can't wait to get one when I can afford it, as the hybrid tax for 1.2L engine is @ 2000 per cc it’s 24 lacks ++ tax alone. Anyway, I had the pleasure of driving this car that Nissan had finally got right in terms of driving pleasure, acceleration, fuel economy & low maintenance. Some points here, · It’s a Series Hybrid System, driven only by an Electric Motor & Inverter taken from Nissan Leaf. ( 254nm Torque 0-3008 rpm, that’s a lot of pulling power ) o I tested this with 3 ppl in the car it still took off like no one was in it. · It’s does not have a charging port, so it can’t be charged and the size of the battery is 1/20 the size of the leaf. (mounted below driver & passenger seat) – Low center of gravity, Replacement batter may cost much lesser than leaf's. · It’s got a 1200cc 4 cylinder, 92 Octane petrol engine, which does not drive the wheels, it’s sole purpose it to charge the batteries, and on high acceleration compensate the battery. · 12v Battery is located @ the boot to start the ICE, occupies the space for the extra wheel, they should find space to dump it in the engine bay. · Engine supposeto run in a fixed rev range like 2.2k - 2.8k ish, and it’s more like how generators are serviced, you could have serviced it for the hrs it’ running, rather than the KM’s · No Gear box, nothing to maintain ? Experience Driving…! ( I only had about 10 mins of Driving this amazing car wish I had more time to experiment). Absolutely loved it, (Correct me if I’m wrong as we have an owner) · Smooth acceleration, due to no gears, no hiccups due to electric motor from leaf, which has been time tested for over 7 years now. · E-Peddle is kool you basically don’t need to use the Break much in the S and E modes. o Best part is in Uphill or Downhill, the car doesn’t move a bit, guess this is standard in the Leaf also with E-Peddle, it just holds the car put, no need to use the break peddle. o I can really get used to this kind of driving ? as you can relax in traffic and keep your leg off the break as it auto breaks, even in slopes. o And when you are let go of the peddle from high speeds, and even if you don’t put your leg in the break peddle, the car automatically lights up the break lights to alert the behind vehicles, that’s it’s slowing down. Regenerative breaking. o Can be driven without the breaking ~80% of the time, brake pads will last a lifetime. · It’s got 3 modes of driving N/E/S = Normal / Eco / Super Break o Normal – after break peddle released the car starts moving, after acceleration when you let go of the e-peddle, it’s like Neutral on manuals, just coasts. Behaves more like an Auto gear car. o Eco – Controls the acceleration to optimize fuel economy. § When break peddle is lifted the car doesn’t move at all like in N mode. § Need to push on the e-peddle to get it moving. § It controls the acceleration to have a eco driving, still it’s quick. § Then I just slammed just to see what happens and it turns in to the beast and go like crazy, like in S and N modes. § I felt the regenerative break is not as strong as in S mode. o Super Break – § Car only move when the e-peddle is pressed otherwise it’s stand still like E mode. § Regeneration is strong here they say about 20% of full breaking capacity § It’s smooth and no need to hard break at all. § And you can control the breaking power also from the e-peddle letting it off fully, will produce the most breaking with regeneration. § If you let it go smoothly then its a controlled breaking experience without ever stepping on the Break Peddle. § When you accelerate it’s a different story unlike the E mode, instance acceleration, no delays. If you slam it that is. · Otherwise it’s nice like an average car without the hiccups you get when gears get changed. Only Drawback I see is that Nissan Leaf battery almost dies after 5 years, it could happen to this also. The car depends heavily on the battery, don’t know if it can be driven from the engine alone like a generator. Good thing is the size of the battery is 1/20 of leaf’s, meaning it’s price will be hope fully 1/10 of the price. Acceleration is just crazy in low speeds, (of course it's not a tesla roadster 0-100 in 1.9 secs and cost 200K USD ) · 0-40 less than 2 seconds – In traffic you can just launch before others could blink, · 40 to 80 it’s like 3 seconds. – while going behind a slow driver effortless overtaking. Max speed might be 160Km even though 180Km is listed, could not try that where I got to drive it. May be our owner could try this @ highway ? Overall one of the best driving experience I had, from a Family car which has a massive boot, seating for 5 adults, with ample legroom at the back seats, it’s impressively comfortable, weight about 1200Kgs. It’s cornering also quite good, as the batteries are below the front seats. The one I drove had 360 cams with reverse and forward sensors and extra camera at the top of the rear dicky, to show the rear view while driving so even if you have items in the back seat or boot, still you can have a nice view of the back though the rear view mirror which turns to a full screen display when switched to that mode, otherwise it’s like a normal mirror. This is Factory Fitted options. You must experience a drive on this car, you’ll just fall in love with it, it’s got best of both worlds, Performance and Fuel Economy with comfort. If you can afford some extra cash, can try the Nismo E-Power, it’s good some nice front and rear bumper with side shirts, additional items for handling and a tuning computer. Hope Nissan guys dumps their latest Leaf’s motor which is 330Nm, on the Note or Micra and couple it with their 900CC turbo engine, then tax will be half. They already using the New leaf motor on the Sarena E-power. 0-100 times will drop to 6 secs ?
  2. Cross(X) Bee, could be the one of the rare less than 1 Liter Hybrid’s (Mild Hybrid) or SHVS. it's tax will be about 400K++ than hustler, It's tax category falls under less than 1000cc which is 1250 per cc same as 650cc Hustler. Hustler is a MPFI - ICE recommended 92 Oct petrol Cross Bee is a GDI - ICE (Booster-jet) recommended 98 Oct Petrol. (who sells 98 oct fuel in SL) It's Direct Injection engine, with time inlet values will get clogged with blow by though PCV value, it may be good to install an Oil catch can, to increase the time before cleaning. MPFI in hustler doesn't have this problem. My better half owns a AWD, Turbo Hustler, it comes standard with paddle shift. Suzuki guys seem to add paddle shift for turbos as standard, for this generation. You can't select 2wd or 4wd on Hustler it's the same AWD system in the Cross Bee. On the FWD Hustler & Cross Bee you don't get the Hill Decent Assist & Grip Control options as standard. Maybe they should integrate the e-4wd system from Hitachi, less complex and available on demand. XBee gets the Radar Cruise control (Adaptive Cruise Control) which is not yet available In Hustler, standard cruise is available , it has reverse radar also which is integrated with the breaking system allows to auto break when obstructions are at the reversing side. Hustler has CVT gear system, and Xbee got 6 speed Manual Auto Shift system, that used in RST, Balino. If you look closely at the XBee it's a mix of many vehicle parts, suzuki seems to be reusing different parts from different vehicles and scooped up something new Xbee DashBoard A/C Swishes & display taken from IGNIS RPM, Speedo and Info Display in Dash taken from - RST, BALINO, same using in the 1.2L Hybrid Suzuki Swift Door are looks like the have been taken from Hustler form inside out side looks bit different. Boosterjet Engine taken from RST, Balino. ISG motor is larger than hustler most probably taken from the 1.2l Hybrid Variant Swift. Front seats are better on Xbee there is a gap between front two seats and seat are independent and not touching like in the hustler. So you are held better in hard cornering. On the AWD xbee I saw that it had a Sport mode and Snow mode which is not present in the AWD hustler.
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