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http://m.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Civic/2017/electrical/electrical_system.shtml looks like its the civic hatchback dashboard. Probably due to some cost saving measures after releasing the top end 4Cyl version.

they have this legal loophole,because the affected vehicles are brought down by shady importers even though the suitability is not tested for our local higher temperature conditions. Is there no hope to raise the issue with the car sale people?

could you clarify which Control unit and what issues are seen? The 4cyl 300HPType -R from Europe is in field use since 2015 without any such issues.

The Honda is a tripped down version of the 4cyl Type-R.Both have Engine technology from Germany. But agree that CVT is problematic for our use conditions also given Hondas poor record recently with gearbox issues. Regarding body parts I think its same,because Both are European /UK models,and no cheap second hand parts available for the non-JDM Honda either.

what happened?

I I guess you meant to say"made for UK conditions"? Cars made for "mainland " Europe have to consider temperatures from hot Spanish summer near 40 degrees to freezing Siberian winters minus 30!

Ask the owner and take it to Toyota Lnka for a scan.I doubt any other places have proper Toyota scanners that can capture all errors especially related to the additional hybrid components ageing 10 years under our harsh weather.

Normally a full hybrid can propel the car on electric power alone,without Engine. https://www.autotrader.com/car-reviews/mild-or-full-hybrid-distinctions-defined-36605 But then even the Prius does not qualify as a full-hybrid. The easiest way would be to check the hybrid battery voltage. Mild hybrid battery has a lower value(ex:48V for Euro cars with Brake recuperation & Stop/Start,not sure about Jap),where as Full have above 250V.

how fast can it go all electric (without engine)?

yes,i need to power up the electrical system to open with keyfob. only the drivers side and boot(dikiya) have key cylinders. No I haven't thought of accessing the latch through grill,is it possible / standard in all cars?(wouldn't that be a security weakness if it was possible,last thing I should worry about?)

OK This is not for the same car,I have a similar problem with my Sedan. 3 weeks ago, Car was locked with key fob and the battery terminals removed(to save battery during my absence) Now the key does not turn fully in the Driver side door key-cylinder, it seems stuck Apart from DS door,only the Boot can be opened,but there is a metal panel between boot and rear seat,no access Any ideas how to access the passenger compartment? I saw this somewhere in internet how to supply the car when battery is removed. too risky than going in from the boot by cutting off the metal panel with a grinder? Quote: This is what I would do, I'd borrow a battery and a set of jumper cables. I would get under the car and ground the chassis/engine and power the heavy gauge starter cable. This way you should be able to use your remote and roll your windows down.

is it possible to happen also with Diesels and lead to not-starting ? what are the symptoms?

Torque is related to other factors than those mentioned above. more precise control of Injection durations,high compression with efficient turbochargers,high fuel pressure,EGR, intake and exhaust flaps,VVT, piston design,fuel stratification by injector nozzle design etc ..in short words "more efficient Engine management" . Thats why the Audi gets higher torque at a lower RPM than the C-HR,which is less efficient.

If you statement was correct,Japan would have shut down all nuclear plants after the Fukushima disaster. Jobs come first in any case,especially with the current Pro-industry government of Mr.Abe,and Car industry is a traditional job creator from supplier to manufacturer levels, they would do anything to keep the factory jobs. So I repeat, India is decades ahead of us when it comes to industrialization

India is decades ahead of us when it comes to industrialization(although A Lankan IT "ostar" will say otherwise). Many countries including Japan,consider India as a"Market" only smaller than China and USA. It makes economical sense to manufacture in the market where most sales of the particular model is expected.

what about this 3cyl Hybrid , http://europe.autonews.com/article/20171130/ANE/171139997/1114 anyone dared to ask the agent about price? A 1.5L engine with 231PS + motor 130PS, the TAXES should be lower than the 2017 Priasss which has 1.8L engine with only 95PS+ motor 71PS only

apart from Toyota,other Japanese manufacturers recently have been going downhill on the quality of design side. Maybe because of higher costs to develop complex systems and lack of finances force them to streamline the costs of validation processes during development of core parts which they take for granted. Due to fast changes in technology,it is getting harder for smaller car companies to survive on their own,and many go for joint development to share costs. Honda is one of the few that still does development on its own. Another reason could be that young Japanese are moving away from cars,and embracing technology instead. So its possible that engineers on the design team have not much car experience and only theoretical/simulation experience. No matter how advanced the tools are,it's experience and knowhow which enables to setup a simulation correctly and move to a real design,then validate is using real but not too harsh or too easy parameters. is it an original or grey import? In case of latter,I doubt if writing could get them to admit the fault and give an apology because there is the loophole that the car was used in a market it was not released for. It depends on their sincerity,but it might work. There is this story that Honda sent down a battery pack free of shipping cost,but it happened to a friend of a friend of a friend as always. In case of original, being more assertive could help. It would be better to complain directly to customer service number,but you need someone fluent in Japanese for that.

so the arguement is,you shouldn't buy a European car unless you have owned one before. Sounds like a Chicken or egg problem. The best way to get into the category is to buy a brand-new one if its available for a reasonable price, not to buy a 10year old Euro which would provide a steep learning curve for a newcomer switching from an Acqua. These drivetrains are quite robust,and tested under harsh conditions and also in the field by thousands of cars manufactured per day(Audi,VW,Seat,Skoda all sharing sme platform and components).

the 1L engines cant do 200kmph it seems,but wont be a problem in SL. By the way this 1L engine offered in SL is the 82PS or 95PS version? The 95PS version seems quite fast with 0-100kmph in 11S.

to me the C-HR looks like how the Q2 will look, after an accident ? Unless you want good 2nd hand price, go for the Audi. Wait,didn't the Toyota just lose 4million value in one day? Is that still good 2nd hand value for those who bought it before the budget? the government policy seems to be to reduce taxes on smaller engine vehicles,so when the next Toyota comes out with a smaller engine and similar power, the current CHR would be less attractive for a second hand buyer too. by the way, where did you drive the Q2, does it feel underpowered with the 1L engine?

OMG, people are comparing Indian with European now? this is getting more hilarious than the thread about C-HR vs Audi Q2. The Pug,though older will be more advanced with more options than the newer Indian rust bucket and give you more ride comfort,better handling and more protection if it crashes(god forbid). But you will have to accept the weak resale market and the Auto-transmission related problems due to overheating that Pugs of this era had. or Is it a manual?

good decison. Better not go "El-cheapo" like some thel higannas recommend if you plan to keep it for a while.. you never know when another cell will fail and have to take the whole damn thing apart again in a few months under our harsh environmental conditions compared to Japan.But I worry about the impact that driving with a weak battery will have on the surrounding power electronics components. If the battery doesnt deliver the expected current it could make the power electronics circuits(like Inverter) work harder at max load,which could lead to premature failure of also these components.(just basic Electronics,maybe it has some protection mechanisms to reducr power at weak battery)

The first mass-production passenger car with the common rail system used worldwide ubiquitously now was the Alfaromeo-JTD. The system was jointly developed by Bosch and Fiat group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_rail "Modern common rail with electronic control for Passenger cars is an Italian invention taken over and developed for mass production by supplier Giant Bosch."

Suzuki is using German engine management technology,which is already mature enough and proven in many other models with same system with other carmakers.