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Harrier official deep dive by Toyota Japan. Also they've published an apple to apple comparison of 3rd Gen vs 4th Gen versions. You may refer link below for details. https://toyota.jp/harrier/compare/?padid=from_harrier_top_compare_banner

This is a simple example that prove some ppl try to show-off that they know everything and assume they can mind read others to make public statements. Let them have fun. ? ? ? Attaching original Japanese post published on 18th April 2020. All other so called Asian magazines might have refereed or copied stuff from here. Those who know Japanese please read thru. http://creative311.com/?p=89012

You may already aware that Toyota Harrier has it's Sports variant called Harrier GR Sports { GR = Gazoo Racing ). Recently there is some hype created in Japan with rendered suggestions for 2021 GR Sports version tobe.......!!! Though this is not official, Harrier fans can most probably expect GR version in time to come. Toyota is targeting it's GR Sports variants to compete with Mercedes Benz-AMG Line & BMW's M Performance segments. You may refer below images of current Harrier GR Sports (i.e. 2017 version ). https://toyota.jp/harrier/grade/gr_sport/?padid=ag341_from_harrier_top_grade_elegancegr_thumb Toyota’s GR Sport models include enhancements to it's chassis with additional welding points and braces for a stiffer structure along with enhanced suspension and brakes. ( refer above ) Inside the cabin, Harrier GR Sport includes carbon fibre inserts, smaller diameter GR Sport steering and GR Sport dials as oppose to its general variant. Finally, regarding the announcement and release schedule in Japan for 2021 Harrier XU80,will be as follows. 1. Release of exclusive teaser site: April 13, 2020 - Done 2. Price distribution by grade: May 11 3. Pre-order acceptance: May 15 4. Start of production: June 8, 2020 5. Press release / release: June 17, 2020 6. In-store announcement: early July 2020 But please be aware that there may be changes due to adverse covid-19 impact.

HI Zeristo, Thanks for your comments. Yep, you are correct. Actually even current 3rd Gen XU60 2.0L [without Turbo] is not that popular in Sri Lanka after 2017 duty revisions. That's why you hardly see XU60 face-lift [i.e. YoM 2017 and above ] models here in SL. So there is a high chance that XU80 might not appear here in SL, unless there is a duty revision. Regarding comment on Panorama roof; yes it's available in the current XU60 also. But the uniqueness of new model is nothing but it's a Dimmable Panoramic Roof. Electro-chromatic feature of the glass allows controlling the degree of light pass-thru, which Toyota claims for the 1st time they have implemented for a Panoramic Roof. ( uniqueness has nothing to do with electronic shade or Panoramic Roof ; as both features were there for sometime... so no hype to create !!! ? ) If you carefully see video attachment time stamp 1.35 & 1.40 you can observe the difference of dimmable feature. Also you may refer spec shared by Toyota for clarity. Thanks

Few unique things about new Harrier. 1. Instead of Harrier emblem as in previous generations, new model carries Toyota emblem on front grill. This can be an indication that Toyota's future plans to launch this model in other markets. Some claims that there is a chance to launch it in USA as Toyota Venza. 2. Long Range LED High Mount Rear Stop Lamp. 3. Dual exhausts 4.Digital Inner center mirror, used for the first time by Toyota, enables recording of images to the front and rear of the vehicle while driving. So no need of after market dash cams. 5. A panorama sun roof, used for the first time by Toyota, is equipped with electric shades and electro-chromatic windows. Dimming the windows fosters a feeling of quality as soft light penetrates the cabin. 6. Dedicated Communication Module (DCM) powered with MyToyota Smart Phone Application to Start the vehicle engine & Air Conditioner remotely. 7. Packed with advanced Toyota Safety Sense (TSS) features including Road Sign Assist etc.

No comments, as this message itself will display the your attitude and professionalism. Good luck !!!

Better read through prior coming into conclusions in future. ?

Unlike it's predecessor, new XU80 model lacks Turbo charged variant for the time being. It only comes with following configurations; 2.5L Hybrid engine (THS II) : A25A-FXS with two variants; Front Wheel Drive Four Wheel Drive (E-Four) 2.0L Gasoline engine : M20A-FKS with two variants ; Front Wheel Drive Four Wheel Drive

Yep, 2.5L comes with Hybrid variant.

Refer below Toyota original press release on XU80 Harrier, where they officially details about engine specs, weight & other features. https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/toyota/32186311.html

New Toyota Harrier 4th Generation to be unveil during June 2020 Dear All, Brief below will provide a quick snapshot of features & specifications of all new Toyota Harrier 2021 model. Appreciate your comments. The 4th generation XU80 Toyota Harrier is set to premiere in June this year in Japan. New model will come along with advanced styling & feature updates that make the vehicle even more unique & sportier than before, leading the path towards a new Urban SUV genre. Main Features: 1.Exterior The new Harrier XU80 has a front view that emphasizes its sharp and fearless styling through the continuity of lines flowing from the front upper grill through to the headlamps. The signature lamps emphasize the individuality and technical advancement of the new Harrier, enabling it to be easily distinguished from a distance. Projector LED Head lamps with L shape DRLs Despite a simple structure, the side view offers a dynamically changing body cross section that creates a rich expressiveness while giving a powerful sense of movement. The combination of a narrowed coupe cabin with sports car-like wheel housings extending from both sides of the body gives a generous ruggedness to the rear view. The light from a thin, sharp line of tail lamps and stop lamps gives it an overwhelming sense of presence. LED High mount Stop Lamp ( Long Type ) A total of seven muted colors will be available, including Precious Black Pearl <219>, Slate Gray Metallic <1K9>, White Pearl Crystal Shine <070>, Black <202>, Sensual Red Mica <3T3>, Steel Blonde Metallic <4X1>, Dark Blue Mica <8X8> 19 Inch multi spoke alloys with 225/55R19 Tires 2.Interior The center console presents a wide and imposing impression of a horse's saddle. It combines with an instrument panel set within the edges of the saddle to present a generous ruggedness with an emphasis on individuality. Extending out from the instrument panel to the door trims on either side, the rich and full dashboard presents a generous breadth, wrapping around the occupants to give a sense of security and comfort. The interior employs tactile synthetic leather to create the image of a natural-looking silhouette wrapped in thick leather, and bentwood-inspired*3 wood tones and piping throughout, presenting a casual air of quality. TFT - Wide Touch center display along with Electrostatic heater control panel A panorama roof, used for the first time by Toyota, is equipped with electric shades and electro-chromatic windows. Dimming the windows fosters a feeling of quality as soft light penetrates the cabin. The interior employs low-contrast browns, grays, and blacks. This calming atmosphere gives the interior space a feeling that is both chic and mature 3.Platform The new Harrier uses the TNGA (GA-K) platform for its basic structure. This creates a highly rigid body with a low center of gravity in pursuit of both ride comfort and vehicle driving performance with a focus on driver sensitivity. The TNGA platform brings with it the latest all-new Dynamic Force Engine and Direct Shift-CVT. Together with the continually evolving Toyota Hybrid System (THS II), the vehicle achieves a direct driving experience and superior fuel performance. With hybrid specifications also including 2WD models, the new Harrier offers more options than ever. 2.5L Hybrid engine (THS II) : A25A-FXS with two variants; Front Wheel Drive Four Wheel Drive (E-Four) 2.0L Gasoline engine : M20A-FKS with two variants ; Front Wheel Drive Four Wheel Drive The suspension system benefits from MacPherson struts at the front and a double wishbone setup at the rear. The front and rear suspension geometry has also been optimized to produce a well balanced rigid body. Through thorough tuning and testing, Toyota has pursued a ride that is both solid and graceful. To improve steering convergence in the new Harrier, from the first moment driving off and then on the highways, shock absorbers that ensure smooth pedal stroke even in very low speed ranges are used. This enables the driver to feel the tires gripping the road. 4. Advanced Features The new Harrier comes with Toyota Safety Sense (TSS ) Package which includes; Pre Collision Safety (PCS) : Detects pedestrians during the day and at night, as well as cyclists during the day. Lane Tracing Assist (LTA) : Supports High Way cruising Radar Cruise Control (RCC) : Includes advanced vehicle speed detection function to support dynamic cruise control Adaptive High Beam (AHB) & Adaptive High Beam System (AHS) : Support night time visibility Road Sign Assist (RSA) : Support road sign detection to limit speed etc. Intelligent Clearance Sonar (ICS) with Parking Support Brakes (Stationary Objects) : Helps reduce and/or mitigate damage from collisions during low-speed driving in parking lots, etc. Blind Sport Monitor (BSM) : Detects approaching vehicles which are in the blind sports Rear Cross Traffic Auto Break : When moving backward from the parking lot, it detects vehicles approaching from the left and right rear of the vehicle Active Cornering Assist (ACA) is employed for braking control to prevent under steering at corners. The Digital Inner Mirror, used for the first time by Toyota, enables recording of images to the front and rear of the vehicle while driving. Coupled with an electric power steering system that responds quickly to steering wheel movement and provides light steering, this creates a feeling of comfort in the vehicle's responsiveness. The hybrid model features a 100-volt (alternating current) / 1,500-watt accessory power outlet. This not only allows the use of electrical products using the same electrical outlets found in the home, but also enables the vehicle to be used as a power generator during blackouts and other times of emergency. Dedicated Communication Module (DCM), Display & Audio system comes as standard with few varients 8 Inch Display, Audio HIFi with 6 speaker system OR T-Connect SD navigation system with 12.3-inch TFT wide touch-display screen, with Smart Device Link (SDL) and other smartphone connectivity. The JBL premium sound system (9 speakers) creates an advanced and realistic acoustic space. Apply Car Play / Android Auto compatibility Smart Phone Connectivity enable to Start the vehicle engine & Air Conditioner via MyToyota Smart Phone Application. 5. Available Packages 6.Technical Specifications For those who are interested in previous generations of Harrier models please refer post below. http://autolanka.com/forums/topic/20707-toyota-harrier-3rd-generation-xu60/?tab=comments#comment-317851

XU60 Harrier owners with OEM Japanese audio head unit can change your FM tuner to full local FM band (i.e. FM 88~108MHz ) using below configuration change. Also 2nd video will guide you on how to change Navi menus to English.

If you are still not convinced, please refer link I've shared in my previous post and translate with Google. https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/トヨタ・ハリアー This is from Wikipedia. If you still think information is inaccurate better correct there itself ?

Few unpopular facts about TOYOTA Harrier. 1. Harrier was the pioneering model during 1997 that produced a new genre called "High-End Crossover SUV", and later many manufacturers from all over the world have released follow-up models. 2. Outside Japan, the first and second generation models were sold as " RX " in the company's " Lexus " brand. "RX" stands for "Radiant Crossover (X)". 3. Harrier 2nd Generation was the world's first Pre-Crash Safety as automotive equipment equipped with an electronically controlled air suspension on the 3,000 cc highest grade (= AIRS, Air S) and using the Millimeter Wave Radar used for radar cruise control 4. Harrier 2013 new concept release https://newsroom.toyota.co.jp/jp/detail/1756976 5. Harrier 2013 final release https://newsroom.toyota.co.jp/jp/detail/1019785 6. Harrier 2017 facelift specification (8th June 2017) https://newsroom.toyota.co.jp/jp/detail/17023229 7. Recently released ( 3rd Sep 2018 ) special Harrier specification. "Cool interior design with Blue accent shines" https://newsroom.toyota.co.jp/jp/toyota/24385337.html# 8. Detailed feature comparison of 2013 introductory vs 2017 facelift versions. 9. Harrier TV Commercials 1st Generation Harrier TVC 1997 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ1D6rXyFQ0 2nd Generation Harrier TVC 2003 - 3rd Generation Harrier TVC 2013 - 3rd Generation Harrier Face Lift TVC - 2017 -

Tobe more specific........ below is as per manufacturer specifications. 1) Harrier : 1st generation XU10 (1997~2003) and 2nd generation XU30 (2003 ~ 2013) Harrier was built on TOYOTA "K" platform. 3rd generation XU60 (2013 ~ to date ) Harrier is on "New MC" Platform. 2) Lexus RX : Similar to Harrier, Lexus RX also built on "K" platform. Even it continues on same "K" platform till to date. 3) RAV4 : 1st generation XA20 was built on "MC" platform & migrated to "New MC" 2005~2013 (XA30) & 2013 ~ 2018 (XA40). https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/トヨタ・ハリアー

i guess not. RAV4 was on old MC from its inception i.e. 2000 (XA20) & migrated to New MC 2005~2013 (XA30) & 2013 ~ 2018 (XA40). But Harrier came into MC from 2013 onwards (XU30).

Yep correct, RAV4 & Harrier both developed on TOYOTA's new MC platform.

Hi Guys, I did a research on new Harrier XU60, prior to my upgrade. If you are a HARRIER fan, hope this will help. TOYOTA HARRIER - 3rd Generation XU60 New Harrier 3rd generation launched Japan in 2013 and face lifted model from 2017 onwards. Generic model goes as XU60, derives on Toyota's new MC platform. https://toyota.jp/harrier/ Harrier comes in 3 Versions based on Engine Hybrid system namely ; Gasoline, Turbo, Hybrid. Each version has following "Option Grades"; 1. Gasoline comes with 2.0L Petrol engine 3ZR-FAE , Frame ZSU-60W (2WD) / ZSU-65W (4WD) -> Option Grades : Grand, Elegance, Elegance GR Sport, Premium, **Progress Package 2. Turbo comes with 2.0L Turbo charged Petrol engine 8AR-FTS, Frame ASU-60W (2WD) / ASU-65W (4WD) -> Option Grades : Grand, Elegance, Elegance GR Sport, Premium, **Progress Package 3. Hybrid comes with 2.5L Hybrid Engine 2AR-FXE , Frame Code AVU-65W (4WD) -> Option Grades : Grand, Elegance, Premium, **Progress Package With face-lifted 2017 model, Grand variant was removed and the Elegance became the base variant. Turbo Charged model got introduced along with 2017 facelift. ** Progress Package is also called as Advance Premium. *** Premium & Progress Packages have two interior trim variations called ; 1) Standard 2) Metal & Leather https://toyota.jp/harrier/grade/?padid=ag341_from_harrier_navi_grade You can refer full detailed Specs from below link. 1st column is for Turbo, 2nd for Hybrid & 3rd for Gasoline variations. https://toyota.jp/pages/contents/harrier/003_p_007/pdf/spec/harrier_spec_201706.pdf Unlikely during previous Harrier models, TOYOTA has decided to launch Harrier in international markets as well. Hence now its available both in Malaysia & Singapore but with slight option grade variations. These models equipped with English Multi-Information Display which is a plus. https://toyota.com.my/vehicles/suv/harrier https://www.toyota.com.sg/showroom/new-models/harrier New XU60 Harrier is mostly in par with Lexus NX, RX from option wise though they demarcated from outer appearance ( unlikely 2nd generation XU30 Harrier vs Lexus RX ). New face-lifted models includes Toyota Safety Sense P safety features such as, Adaptive Cruise Control ( powered with mmWave Radar ), Lane Departure Assist (LDA) , Pre-crash Safety System (PSS), Automatic High Beam (AHB), Automatic Parking Break, Break Hold. https://toyota.jp/harrier/safety/?padid=ag341_from_harrier_navi_safety Also it equipped with Dual Zone Climate Controlled A/C equipped with Nano-e, Panoramic Electric Twin Sun Roof, Heated side Mirrors and back door Windscreen, Power Electric memory leather seats, Heated and Ventilated Seats, Power Back Door, Power Tilt steering, Auto dimming Rear View Mirror, Intelligent Clearance Sonar (ICS)/Parking Assist, Hill Start Assist, Automatic Level Sensing Cornering LED Headlights, Sequential Turn Lights, Dual (Vertical & Horizontal ) LED Day Time Running Lights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Wireless charging, Auto Retract Mirrors, 7 SRS Air Bags, 360 Bird's Eye View with Steering Guide Lines equipped with factory installed JBL Audio Package + JBL Sub Woofer, Multi function Steering, 100v/100w AC outlet, Shark Fin Antenna, Scuff & Trim Illumination etc.. Features depend on Grade variations. Also Premium and above grades comes with a Smart RF Card Key which you can carry on your wallet. However it lacks virtual cockpit, powered & ventilated rear back seats, 3rd row seats, front & rear USB ports (only Premium Advance comes with single USB port inside center console), Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) etc when compared to European counterparts. https://toyota.jp/harrier/interior/?padid=ag341_from_harrier_navi_interior Harrier comes with few styling options. https://toyota.jp/harrier/exterior/?padid=ag341_from_harrier_navi_exterior 1) Toyota Styling Package Ver 1, 2, 3. ( With old model (pre 2017) there were special style editions called Style Mauve and Style Ash ). https://toyota.jp/harrier/accessories/ Harrier Turbo variation comes with a unique 18 inch alloy wheels which gives a very premium sporty look. 2) TRD Styling Package - Areo Ver 1,2 http://trdparts.jp/english/harrier/aero2.html 3) Modellista Styling Package Ver 1, 2 https://www.modellista.co.jp/product/harrier/ Out of above Modellista styling variations are quite popular. Harrier is a quite popular mid sized SUV in Sri Lanka from its 1st generation. It competes with Lexus RX/NX, Honda CRV, Nissan X-Trail, Peugoet 3008, Audi Q6, BMW X5. Being a TOYOTA it has a very good 2nd hand resale value too. Harrier is powered with 6 Speed Electronically Controlled Tiptronic Transmission (ECT) System which gives a very efficient fuel consumption. As per manufacture specs Gasoline does 16km/l, Turbo 13km/l & Hybrid 21.4km/l under standard idle conditions. However based on my personnel experience 2.0L Harrier Gasoline version does around 9~10 km/l in Colombo city traffic and above 14km/l ++ long distance. This is with ECO Mode + Smart Engine Auto Stop modes ON. When you switch to POWER mode, you can feel real glimpse of sporty racing drive. In Sri Lanka you can get both XU60 Harriers from 2013 and 2017 models mostly Grand, Elegance, Premium & Advance Premium Option grades. But you may hardly find Harrier Turbo grade as those variants goes above government permit CIF restrictions. Sadly due to government permit / duty restrictions nowadays its not possible to import Harrier in brand new condition. Hope things will change in time to come. Being a TOYOTA, Harrier gives very good value for money with its features, performance & professional design. Below link gives good overview of 2017 face lifted new Harrier. (Official TOYOPET version ..... of course in Japanese ? ) English version of review. Your comments well appreciated. Thanks.

Its a design fault. No specific mileage tagged, it may appear anytime when oil pops up into combustion chamber. Once the vehicle is correctly repaired with genuine oil rings & pistons its a permanent fix < refer my previous post>. Nothing wrong with other mechanics / electronics attached to the vehicle. BTW this problem you can't scan and diagnose under normal condition, unless if engine misfiring is detected < if so check engine light may anyway light up>. However you can do a visual test by carefully observing exhaust while engine is running at higher RPM. If observable smoke with some carbon deposits poping out, then it may be a problematic vehicle with early warning signs of oil burning.

Agree, best is to fix an OBD scanner and read error codes to diagnose exact reason for LIMP mode. In anycase you have to replace pistons & rings if you need a permanent fix since your engine is burning oil. As highlighted in my previous reply, replacing engine is waste of effort & money, unless otherwise you open it and check the code on the pistons... should have RBJ mark (not RBJ-1). But that's not a practical thing to do....!!!

Yes, part 06131-RBJ-306 is compatible with FIT GP-1. BTW don't go for a recon engine as anyway those are installed with faulty Piston / rings. Recall has mentioned only chassis no, but not engine numbers. Hence end of the day your time, effort and money will be wasted.

There is nothing to do with environmental conditions e.g: higher temperatures etc for this specific problem. Its a manufacturer's design fault due to oil control rings getting clogged with carbon deposits over a period of time. Even if you clean them and reinstall (option 1 & 2 ) will only be a temp relief, once it clogged back oil burning issue will reappear. Basically they have corrected this fault in their new piston / piston ring replacement kit. Refer attached, simply Honda advised to trash all 4 existing installed pistons/rings, if they have "RBJ-1" mark on it. Rectified new pistons will come with "RBJ" mark. This leaflet comes along with original Honda Piston repair kit. Meaning its a design fault & hence nothing to do with environmental temp conditions. Having said that I see two major risks. 1)Passenger Safety : If this problem appear in a severe way, specially when you are driving at high speeds (e.g: highway ) , your vehicle will slowdown immediately due to engine misfiring & ECU limp mode triggering. So outcome / risk of sudden speed drops, at high speeds you should be able to imagine !!! 2) Environmental air pollution: In Sri Lanka we are not doing emission tests for hybrids. However hybrid vehicles with above issue will emit higher amount of carbon than specified. Since above issues are very severe both from passenger safety & environment stand point, in other countries Honda has issued recall notice for vehicles with above issue ( applies to Honda FIT both petrol & hybrid models, Insight hybrid ). Most of the developed nations have taken strict legal actions against these. http://www.autonews.com/article/20131022/OEM11/131029975/american-honda-settles-class-action-suit-over-oil-burning-claim Even though above case study is not specifically for FIT/Insight... but for a similar case, this is how developed nations react to these kind of issues. Hence OEM manufactures also take utmost responsibility to serve those nations better considering possible adverse impacts to their brand reputation. Since consumers from developing countries like Sri Lanka are not making any noise, manufacturers/dealers simply ignoring with some unreasonable excuses, without serious consideration at all. On a different note, once Honda gave a free-of-charge replacement in Sri Lanka for "Honda Vezel" on Ignition Coils & Power Supply Noise Filters, which is again due to a recall. http://www.honda.co.jp/recall/auto/info/141023_3457.html Stafford did FoC replacements for same. Honda Vezel also a parallel import & not a vehicle imported through Stafford, but Honda has advised Stafford to do this rectification FoC considering the RISK factor. Then my question is why not for FIT & Insight ? Why Honda discriminate their recall policy then & there ? Basically we are not requesting recall warranty for a minor thing like headlight discoloration or fabric stain but for more serious issue which impacts passenger safety caused due to a manufacturer's design fault. Considering all above facts, my view is we all should write to Honda Japan and make our noise. We as customers have a right to do so and get a reasonable response from the manufacturer on their final stance.

Has anyone got positive feedback from Honda Japan ? I've got few mail responses from them.... they just apologize for the inconvenience caused and request me to contact local dealer stating that they have informed them directly about my issue. But feedback from Stafford is still the same, claiming nothing informed about recall for GP1 officially. Those who have had similar FIT or Insight oil burning issues, just raise your voice to Honda Japan < [email protected] >

Hi Guys, Honda USA has also released a recall notice with 8 year Warranty extension for Honda Insight 2012 - 2013 for same oil burn issue. Further they have released full instructions for Piston Kit replacement. Refer below link for details. https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A16-101.pdf Since Honda FIT also having same IMA engine this should apply for same. Refer carefully piston ring positions ( RC & 2R marks ) and their angles on page 17 < refer image 1 attached>. If your mechanic install these without any prior knowledge on ring positions, sides & spacer clock angles your entire effort & money will be lost. As there are specific groves on each ring to provide correct oil sealing while maintaining required compression. Also need ring compressor tool to position piston rings back into cylinder. < refer Page 18 or image 2 attached> Happy Reading :-) Thanks

Guys, If you are going ahead with proper repair as recommended in recall notice ( i.e. Option 3 ), these are the parts that you need to replace. Honda has packaged it now under part number "06131-RBJ-306". Refer image attached. Pkg includes 1 Piston +1 Piston Ring +1 Piston Pin. You need 4 sets of above. Thanks.