manusha

if i was rude to any one in this forum, im sorry, it was un-intentional. BTW only thing i said was, "i dont listen to mechanic's talks, bcuz they are mostly bullshit." and i know that for a fact.. i dont know why ppl say that statement is rude.. im just expressing my opinion... BTW these links some information about the facts.. http://groups.google.lk/group/uk.rec.cars....d1367fda3980e66 http://www.oztion.com.au/-LPG---Flashlube-...on/2278784.aspx any of those "HONDA experts" failed to at least mention something like that...

>> Buddy, you've answered your own question there. If you have to advance your engine to run properly on LPG, then naturally you run the risk of igniting the fuel air mixture before your valves are fully shut i dont think so b'cuz both valves are closed from the start of the compression stroke till the end of the power stroke. so any small adjustment in ignition time or valve open/close time might not interfere with the ignition

>>Since we do not have the blue prints of the Honda VTec engine or have the capability to speak to Honda's main design engineer we do not have an insight of the tolerances this particular engine was built for. So we have no choice but to rely on the experienced of people who have had experiences of such and on people of the caliber of Racers Edge. thats exactly im talking about... thats why im asking for feedback from real owners.. >> And also why go to mechanics whose advice you do not trust ? That sounds a bit silly to me to be honest, if you read my initial post carefully you will understand that i was not expecting advice from mechanics, but from real owners... mechanics are the ppl who : said Auto transmission suck... : but now almost all cars are equipped with AT. hiace(dolphin) engine sucks : i know it is one of the best engines ever made....

>> its good to know that u are an engineer n u also knows how engines work.. oh i know lot more than that... >> so y dont u gas it n run it n see plain n simple is't that bullshit? try to understand what i have asked for? if you cant understand my question, dont argue on it. (as a reminder here is my question - any experiences from vtec owners on good or bad side effects on lp conversion.). any tell me how many engineers are ther in sl? and how many of them repair their own car? my argument was simple. i said im an engineer, so i also know/understand some stuff, so i know what the mechanic says is bullshit or not.. so asking me to convert it my self is total bullshit. >> so if you dnt cncern abt what mechanics say and as u say mechanics bulshit most of the time..y do u ask openions on this forms. forums are full of logical ppl, not just mechanics.. and most importantly other VTEC owners... n for yo info maite i aint a mechanic. >> never called you a mechanic, but from your post it is implicit that you are a mechanic.. >> i've used more than30 hondas for the past 5 yrs( so i guess that is what's called experiance) have you ever converterd them to LP gas? if so you should have mentioned them.. >> n i got a very good team of mechanics whom i treat as my friends n whom i trust n honour..so stuff u mentioned abt mechanics is not good it might be that i was so unlucky for the past 15 years to not to see a one good/logical mechanic.. however those mechanics i know are better than those "HONDA mechanics".. >> give sm respect to the people who does a job that we cant do i will definitely, if they do their job right... i always respect others jobs.. >> who does a job that we cant do if i have enough time, i would not go to any other mechanic.. i'll do them myself... and i used to do that before i started working... >> best thing is for u is to turn it to lpg n see...it shd not be much differnce 4 vtec n non vtec.... once again total bullshit without understanding the question..

im not very concerned about things that are told my mechanics... because i know most of the time they are just bullshit... being an engineer, i also know how engine works, how electronics work, etc, etc, but i dont see the logic behind this VTEC/LPG deadly combination... (if someone knows it please let me know) and i googled a lot to check whether this kind of deadly combination really exists, but found no clue. that is why im asking for experiences from user's perspective...(sorry i could not mention that in my initial post). And i know these "HONDA mechanics" tend to replace the whole engine when they cant figure out the actual fault... blaming something totally unrelated... so im again asking, please let me know if you had a good/bad experience with this deadly combination, ... if i happen to receive more negative experiences, i can think about this again.. here are some of the Sri lankan mechanic's comments on LPG: too much carbon in LPG don't convert, it ruins your engine : however carbon percentage in LPG is much lower than gasoline it ruins piston rings : how ever LPG is good for piston rings as it does not flood them with liquids during a cold start the comment about overheating of valve edges seem to have some logic behind it though.. thats why im concerned.. VTEC is related with valves.. how ever in this case there should not be much difference for VTEC and non VTEC engines..

thanks for all the info and advices... at the moment i got two other cars, both EFI petrol toyota's converted to LPG and runs fine without any problem. as far as i know, gas is better to engine than petrol. i have no trouble setting the idle @ 500 in gas. as someone have said already, for proper running we have to advance the Engine to run in gas, which degrades performance in petrol. and my initial question was: DOES LP CONVERSION HAS BAD EFFECTS ON ENGINES WITH VTEC. I JUST WANNA SEE WHETHER THERE IS ANY SPECIFIC PROBLEMS FOR ENGINES WITH VTEC. AND IM SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR EXPERIENCES.

hi, im planing on converting my EK3, VTEC car to LPGAS. im wondering if any one here got positive or negative experiences with gas conversions for vtec's. thanks

how about auto miraj? any experiences with that. i used to service my vehicle from them but never did a fuel system clean..

any one here got any experience with lavato injector type LP gas conversion kit? (done by c__y gas?)

i travel 30KM daily in a corolla and end up pumping only Rs 4K LP gas per month.... buy a decent car and convert it to LP gas...

yeah, ill do them, but im still interested in hearing the average millage from an EK3 owner.

i dont know these bcuz i recently bought it. i did a transmission oil change but no tune up. i'll do a tune up as well, may be someone can let me a good place for that...

mine runs only 7 km per liter. i obtained this figure with very careful economical driving in econ mode..

its a toyota corona, AT170, 92 model, auto transmission. the problem is bit complicated.. this all started with a repair done to the gear box around 2 years back for a delayed reverse problem. it was done in a place near pannipitiya, and they've replaced some rubber rings and metal plates. after this repair, the delayed reverse problem was solved. however after around a week or so it started to show a huge slip between engine and wheels, so that even for a speed of 20 km/h, engine showed an RPM of around 2000. this was present in all gears and was severe for the reverse. i ran the car for almost two years with this problem, until i got to know recently that the fuel economy is around 4km per liter! i dont think its a delay in gear shifts, as i feel it changing at appropriate RPM's. instead it is a slip between engine and wheels, probably due to lack of viscosity in torque converter..

any one knowing of standard Mileage per liter for EK3 (98), multimatic with vi engine in econ mode?